20110827 Follow Me 108 夸克之一

2011-8-27 17:14:26

starskyjing 发表于 2011-8-27 08:40
o. some americans think the usa should take transportation spending as a stimulus. in my impression ...

Wow, they have Apple and Microsoft. Once those companies can maky up some new idea and innovation, they can support their economy. But China does not have any of this kind of companies.

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maiwenzhen

2011-8-27 17:16:46

夸克之一发表于 2011-8-27 09:53
腐败是corruption，冲突conflicts

基层肯定不是primary level，具体怎么讲比较合理我没有十足把握。

但很明显这个基层指的是“基层ZF”，而不是普通人民喔~怎么能用grassroots。应该是local government吧~~grassroots哪能腐败啊~

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maiwenzhen

2011-8-27 17:22:09

周军杰发表于 2011-8-27 09:28
Do we need a super transportation system?
It seems that china wants to build a super transportation ...

Easy question. Government wants GDP, while we need low CPI and high wage.

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maiwenzhen

2011-8-27 17:25:06

周军杰发表于 2011-8-27 09:48
是的，该如何表达呢？

I believe it should be the "corruptions of local government and their conflictions with grassroots."

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夸克之一

2011-8-27 17:25:28

maiwenzhen 发表于 2011-8-27 17:16
但很明显这个基层指的是“基层ZF”，而不是普通人民喔~怎么能用grassroots。应该是local government吧~~g ...

但问题是local governments是地方ZF，并非中文里基层的意思。所谓基层腐败和冲突比单纯地方ZF的范围要大得多。

grassroots在这里肯定不是最精确的说法，但我也不认为“基层”是local governments。

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maiwenzhen

2011-8-27 17:31:53

夸克之一发表于 2011-8-27 17:25
但问题是local governments是地方ZF，并非中文里基层的意思。所谓基层腐败和冲突比单纯地方ZF的范围要大得 ...

Wow, interesting~so what else can you think we can describe as "corruption" if it is not the government.

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夸克之一

2011-8-27 17:39:03

maiwenzhen 发表于 2011-8-27 17:31
Wow, interesting~so what else can you think we can describe as "corruption" if it is not the gover ...

please do not neglect "conflicts"...

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maiwenzhen

2011-8-27 17:44:51

夸克之一发表于 2011-8-27 17:39
please do not neglect "conflicts"...

So,I give you my version of translation is corruptions of local government and their conflictions with grassroots (local people).

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sinianriye

2011-8-27 17:58:19

re~~~~~
这篇比较简单啊~~

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桉树熊

2011-8-27 19:37:38

maiwenzhen 发表于 2011-8-27 17:16
但很明显这个基层指的是“基层ZF”，而不是普通人民喔~怎么能用grassroots。应该是local government吧~~g ...

我觉得local government指的是地方ZF，虽然google翻译首选给出的是local government，但还是给了grassroot government的翻译，有道的翻译也是如此，如果大家有兴趣可以去看一下韦氏等更为权威的翻译。

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maiwenzhen

2011-8-27 19:48:51

桉树熊发表于 2011-8-27 19:37
我觉得local government指的是地方ZF，虽然google翻译首选给出的是local government，但还是给了grassroo ...

The point is not to see what are the translations those websites provided, but it is to think about the actual meaning of 基层腐败和冲突. Do you really think a mechine can give the accurate meaning of "基层" which is completely under China's context???

"Grassroots democracy is a tendency towards designing political processes where as much decision-making authority as practical is shifted to the organization's lowest geographic level of organization" from Wikipedia.

Do you think in China Grassroots government really exists?

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purplehairs

2011-8-27 21:33:01

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钱应该花在哪儿是最合适的，这个答案也许在短期内很难明了。只有过了一段时间后，回顾历史才能评判得失。美国人在抱怨钱没有花在基础建设上，而我们也在抱怨钱没有花在提高人民福利上。

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cabbit

2011-8-27 22:33:33

果然被夸克哥说了，半夜不好使啊

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pheifan

2011-8-27 23:39:03

indeed, china takes out a big proportion of the gross domestic product, into the infrastructure. however, we didn't get the high quality that a 9% deserved, just as the recent train crash proved the opposite. so maybe we need more reflexion on the output comparing to the input, especially to ensure the quality.

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helloweenee

2011-8-28 00:05:41

keep studying！

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bengdi1986

2011-8-28 06:53:04

During this time of economic uncertainty and record federal deficits, infrastructure is an economic driver. According to the microeconomic theory, the investment on infrastructure can increase the GDP and promote many other relative industries. As for the social benefit, it is essential for the long-term creation of quality American jobs.

To get American economy back on track, they should develop a national infrastructure strategy for the next decade. This policy should be based on economics, not politics. Though the federal transportation policy was set by an agenda by Ensonhower, it was misdirected by other successors.

However, our nation and Brazil made it a stimulus to develop economy. We created a glorious success and survive from the global economic crisis. Worse still , we have no choice but to buy the bonds for the American. What’s more, they degrade their own level to affect the bonds. That would make RMB appreciation, gain the benefit from our nation!

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周军杰

2011-8-28 10:41:53

maiwenzhen 发表于 2011-8-27 17:25
I believe it should be the "corruptions of local government and their conflictions with grassroots ...

good job！but your answer seems has shrunk my opinion and i think there may be other more adequate translation. hope u can get it!

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周军杰

2011-8-28 11:12:47

bengdi1986 发表于 2011-8-28 06:53
During this time of economic uncertainty and record federal deficits, infrastructure is an economic ...

another dispositive effect of large projects is income gap. the money almost all has gone to the serveral people who have special political relationships and they have been becoming more and more rich.thus the income gap will much more serious

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夸克之一

2011-8-28 12:51:36

bengdi1986 发表于 2011-8-28 06:55
夸克哥，还有我的语法错误！昨天学校停电，上不了网，，在沙发上给睡着了，嘿嘿

其实我个人觉得，假如要写一段感想或者评论最好能少借鉴原文的话语。另外，我写出来的英文也一塌糊涂，你看我从来都是中文回复的。

“ We created a glorious success and survive from the global economic crisis.” survive=>survived

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maiwenzhen

2011-8-28 17:09:18

周军杰发表于 2011-8-28 10:41
good job！but your answer seems has shrunk my opinion and i think there may be other more adequate ...

So you did believe "corruptions and conflictions of grassroots " is the better one?

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周军杰

2011-8-28 17:41:26

maiwenzhen 发表于 2011-8-28 17:09
So you did believe "corruptions and conflictions of grassroots " is the better one?

i just wanted to say"there may be better answers" which didn't mean i was satisified with that answer, and i am still wishing u could offer the most adequate one

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ddovels

2011-9-2 16:11:40

不能让美国做的更好了，人们的注意力都不在交通建设方面，估计美国想投资的话也只能让中国人来做。或者干脆外包给人力成本而且能吃苦的国家的工人们去做。

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