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I have listed a number of famous economists aphorism, I hope that we can translate, and then given an after-school exercise from Mankiw macroeconomics, when I first saw this topic, feel good , looking forward to your answer
“The growing complexity of science, technology, and organization does not imply either a growing knowledge or a growing need for knowledge in the general population. On the contrary, the increasingly complex processes tend to lead to increasingly simple and easily understood products. The genius of mass production is precisely in its making more products more accessible, both economically and intellectually to more people.”
-Thomas Sowell

“Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded- here and there, now and then- are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.This is known as "bad luck.".”
-Robert Heinlein

“The essence of wealth is the capacity to control the forces of nature, and the extent of wealth depends upon the level of technology and the ability to create new knowledge.”
-Julian Simon

“I, however, place economy among the first and most important republican virtues, and public debt as the greatest of the dangers to be feared.”
-Thomas Jefferson

“Economists are pessimists: they've predicted 8 of the last 3 depressions”
-Barry Asmus

The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.

- Joan Violet Robinson

Inflation is the one form of taxation that can be imposed without legislation.

- Milton Friedman

Having a little inflation is like being a little pregnant--inflation feeds on itself and quickly passes the "little" mark.

-Dian Cohen

--Paul Krugman

--Thomas Jefferson

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zhdefei

2012-4-10 11:11:42

Inflation is the one form of taxation that can be imposed without legislation.

- Milton Friedman

通胀就是强加的不合法税收！
----zhdefei

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zhdefei

2012-4-10 11:14:43

“Economists are pessimists: they've predicted 8 of the last 3 depressions”
-Barry Asmus
经济学家都是悲观主义者：他们对最近的3次大萧条预测成了8次！
-----zhdefei

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桶桶nancy

2012-4-10 12:08:50

If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered.

如果美国人一直允许私人银行控制货币发行,直接导致先通货膨胀,后通货紧缩,土生土长的银行和企业们将肆无忌惮的剥夺人们的财产,直到他们的孩子在祖先所征服的欧洲大陆上无家可归才开始警醒。

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hope.

2012-4-10 13:08:18

Today's typesetting is a little uncomfortable. As a fan of Follow Me, I feel recently the Follow Me is poor performance and hope your teamwork can pay more attention on it.

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xc2010economics

2012-4-10 13:23:42

hope. 发表于 2012-4-10 13:08
Today's typesetting is a little uncomfortable. As a fan of Follow Me, I feel recently the Follow Me ...

thanks for your attention , do you have any good suggestions ? and why you said today's topic is a little uncomfortable .

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lk1966mail

2012-4-10 13:41:59

“The growing complexity of science, technology, and organization does not imply either a growing knowledge or a growing need for knowledge in the general population. On the contrary, the increasingly complex processes tend to lead to increasingly simple and easily understood products. The genius of mass production is precisely in its making more products more accessible, both economically and intellectually to more people.”
-Thomas Sowell
科学，技术以及体系的日益增长的复杂性并不意味着知识的增长，也不意味着人们需要更多的知识。相反，这些日益复杂的进程却导致越来越简单并且易于被人们接受的各式产品。大规模生产的好处恰恰是它使得更多的产品更容易得到，而且在经济上和智力上容易被更多的人接受。

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zhdefei

2012-4-10 14:03:29

The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.

- Joan Violet Robinson

研究经济的目的不是为了得到经济问题的既定答案，而是为了学会如何避免被经济学家欺骗！

不知道翻译的对不对，欢迎批评指正！

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danding1689

2012-4-10 14:16:12

谢谢！！

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jiangqy

2012-4-10 14:18:52

克鲁格曼：我相信相对平等，并且为制度所支持的限制极端富裕与贫困的社会。我相信民主，公民自由和法律规则。因为那使我自由并且以它而自豪。

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shenxiaoqiang

2012-4-10 14:51:11

“The essence of wealth is the capacity to control the forces of nature, and the extent of wealth depends upon the level of technology and the ability to create new knowledge.”
财富的本质是控制自然的力量，财富的范围依赖于科技的水平和创造新知识的能力。

Having a little inflation is like being a little pregnant--inflation feeds on itself and quickly passes the "little" mark.
有稍许的通货膨胀就像一点点被孕育，通货膨胀通过自身滋长，并超越“小”的标记。

GDP并没有考虑到我们孩子的健康，他们教育的质量，或者他们游戏的快乐。它也没有包括我们的诗歌之美和婚姻的稳定，关于公共问题争论的智慧和我们公务员的廉正。它既没有衡量我们的勇气智慧，也没有衡量我们对祖国的热爱。简言之，它衡量了一切，但并不包括使我们生活有意思的东西，它可以告诉我们关于美国人的一切，但没有告诉我们为什么我们以作为一个美国人而自豪。

“Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded- here and there, now and then- are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.This is known as "bad luck.".”

纵贯历史，贫穷是人类的常态。进步允许这种常态被跨越，在这或那，这种进步时不时的是一部分相当小的少数人的成果，然而他们经常被看不起，被责难，并且几乎总是被所有正确思考的人们所反对。无论何时这微小的少数人被阻止去创造，或者被驱逐出一个团体，人们然后重新陷入糟糕的贫穷。这作为“外运气”被知道。

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最爱A-SKY

2012-4-10 15:02:15

The purpose of studying economics is not to acquire a set of ready-made answers to economic questions, but to learn how to avoid being deceived by economists.

- Joan Violet Robinson
学习经济学的目的不是获取一系列已知的经济问题的答案，而是学习怎样避免被一些经济学家欺骗。

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listenhi

2012-4-10 17:19:27

In a speech that Senator Robert Kennedy gave when he was running for president in 1968, he said the following about GDP:

[It] does not allow for the health of our children, the quality of their education, or the joy of their play. It does not include the beauty of our poetry or the strength of our marriages, the intelligence of our public debate or the integrity of our public officials. It measures neither our courage, nor our wisdom, nor our devotion to our country. It measures everything, in short, except that which makes life worthwhile, and it can tell us everything about America except why we are proud that we are Americans.

Was Robert Kennedy right? If so, why do we care about GDP?
1968年，在参议员罗伯特肯尼迪竞选总统的时候，他说了如下一段关于GDP的话：
GDP并不能给孩子们健康，给他们公平的教育机会，和他们玩耍时的快乐。
GDP并不包括诗歌的美丽，婚姻的坚强，公共辩论的睿智和ZF官员的正直。
GDP并不能衡量我们的勇敢，智慧和我们对国家的献身精神。
简而言之，GDP衡量所有东西，但不包括那些让我们的生命有意义的事情；GDP告诉我们关于美国的一切，但不包括为什么我们为身为美国人而自豪。

罗伯特肯尼迪正确吗？如果正确，我们为什么要关心GDP?

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apologize

2012-4-10 17:24:11

纵观历史，贫穷是人们生活的常态。而在世界各地、历史长河中改变贫穷促进（社会）进步只是极少数人的工作，这些人经常遭到主流思想人们的蔑视、谴责和反对。每当这一小批人无法创新，或（有时才发生）被社会所排斥，人们都将再次陷入赤贫。这就是所谓的“霉运”。
——罗伯特·海因莱因
作者系美国科幻小说作家

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mu_lianzheng

2012-4-10 18:06:19

apologize 发表于 2012-4-10 17:24
纵观历史，贫穷是人们生活的常态。而在世界各地、历史长河中改变贫穷促进（社会）进步只是极少数人的工作， ...

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1449021749

2012-4-10 18:13:29

通货膨胀一定要控制，但是要综合考虑国情

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eaglestar

2012-4-10 20:36:16

I believe in a relatively equal society, supported by institutions that limit extremes of wealth and poverty. I believe in democracy, civil liberties, and the rule of law. That makes me a liberal, and I’m proud of it.
--Paul Krugman
我相信存在相对平等的社会，其机构林立，约束贫富的绝对分化，我相信民主，相信人民自由，相信法律. 这让我成为自由斗士，我为此感到自豪。
保罗克鲁格曼

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绵阳

2012-4-10 23:06:52

hope. 发表于 2012-4-10 13:08
Today's typesetting is a little uncomfortable. As a fan of Follow Me, I feel recently the Follow Me ...

Just the opposite,In my opinion today's theme is very very very good，why？The theme related to economy closely,which is our initial purpose

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hope.

2012-4-11 07:16:51

绵阳发表于 2012-4-10 23:06
Just the opposite,In my opinion today's theme is very very very good，why？The theme related to ec ...

Sorry, I didn't mean that. The theme is very good. The word 'typesetting' in Chinese is 排版.( Sorry, I can't explain it in English. )

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apologize

2012-4-11 08:59:22

mu_lianzheng 发表于 2012-4-10 18:06
您好，今天晚上的Follow Me可以由您来发吗？

coffee,感谢你的认可，由于白天工作的关系，只能偷偷找时间回帖，如果条件可以，周末我可以贡献力量，这个也和桉树说过~
辛苦你们了~

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whachel1976

2012-4-12 19:33:53

The essence of wealth is the capacity to control the forces of nature, and the extent of wealth depends upon the level of technology and the ability to create new knowledge.”
-Julian Simon

财富的本质是一种可以控制自然力量的能力,而财富的多少取决于技术水平和创造新知识的能力。
-朱利安西蒙

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