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2013-10-24 09:58:19
auirzxp 发表于 2013-10-24 09:54
“马克思被西方资本主义国家评为历史上最有影响力的这哲学家, 2008年西方国家危机后, 马克思的著作在西方称 ...
BBC. 你是电脑盲? 不会摆渡?
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2013-10-24 10:03:31
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2013-10-24 10:08:18
auirzxp 发表于 2013-10-24 10:03
你提出观点,你举证。。你要我去替你百度什么??又不是我提出观点。
不是文盲的话, 自己看

Revolutionary writer Karl Marx has topped a BBC News Online poll to find the greatest thinker of the millennium.



The nineteenth century writer won September's vote with a clear margin, pushing Albert Einstein, who had led for most of the month, into second place.

  
The top 10 included philosophers Immanuel Kant and Rene Descartes as well as twentieth century scientist Stephen Hawking.


The vote was the ninth of BBC News Online's monthly Your Millennium series. In October you can vote for the greatest explorer of the last thousand years.




To inspire you, two record-breaking British explorers, Brian Jones and David Hempleman-Adams, have contributed their personal top-10 lists.

Karl Marx is probably the most influential socialist thinker to emerge in the nineteenth century and one of the founders of communism.

Although dictatorships throughout the twentieth century have distorted his original ideas, his work as a philosopher, social scientist, historian and a revolutionary is respected by academics today.

Karl Heinrich Marx (1818-1883) was born into a middle-class family in Germany, but he became a revolutionary in Paris, Brussels and London.

He met the like-minded Friedrich Engels (1820-1895) in France. Together they wrote The Communist Manifesto, which outlined the theory of the class struggle. Marx was exiled from Paris and Brussels for his revolutionary activities and settled in London where he lived until his death.

Amongst Marx's other influential works are the Economic and Philosophical Manuscripts, which remained unpublished until the 1930s, and the monumental work Das Kapital.

BBC News Online readers from across the world took part in the millennium poll.

Dag Thoresen from Norway, said: "Karl Marx has inspired thousands of liberation struggles. He was the father of modern political thinking."

And Jyotsna Kapur from the USA said: "Marx analysed best the working of capitalism. Given that that is the system that characterises the world at the end of the twentieth century his work is as relevant to understanding the world we live in as it was for understanding the nineteenth century."

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2013-10-24 10:12:31
auirzxp 发表于 2013-10-24 10:03
你提出观点,你举证。。你要我去替你百度什么??又不是我提出观点。
你们老师就是这么教你的? ……
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2013-10-24 10:16:38
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2013-10-24 10:21:38
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2013-10-24 10:22:19
sixiangzhe 发表于 2013-10-23 12:14
再给桃花源里的人推荐一本书——
特里·伊格尔顿:”作为有史以来对资本主义制度最彻底、最严厉、最全面的 ...
求两本书电子版
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2013-10-24 10:28:14
火候刘明
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2013-10-24 10:30:53
人无完人啊,不过这样说有点过了。。。。
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2013-10-24 11:08:15
auirzxp 发表于 2013-10-24 10:16
看了。这个是BBC的一个月度网络民意调查。

所以你说“马克思被西方资本主义国家评为历史上最有影响力的 ...
自己看, 现在咨询这么发达, 赫赫
, 好好看看卫报关于2008年危机后 马的流行, 你们呀!

Class conflict once seemed so straightforward. Marx and Engels wrote in the second best-selling book of all time, The Communist Manifesto: "What the bourgeoisie therefore produces, above all, are its own grave-diggers. Its fall and the victory of the proletariat are equally inevitable." (The best-selling book of all time, incidentally, is the Bible – it only feels like it's 50 Shades of Grey.)

Today, 164 years after Marx and Engels wrote about grave-diggers, the truth is almost the exact opposite. The proletariat, far from burying capitalism, are keeping it on life support. Overworked, underpaid workers ostensibly liberated by the largest socialist revolution in history (China's) are driven to the brink of suicide to keep those in the west playing with their iPads. Chinese money bankrolls an otherwise bankrupt America.

The irony is scarcely wasted on leading Marxist thinkers. "The domination of capitalism globally depends today on the existence of a Chinese Communist party that gives de-localised capitalist enterprises cheap labour to lower prices and deprive workers of the rights of self-organisation," says Jacques Rancière, the French marxist thinker and Professor of Philosophy at the University of Paris VIII. "Happily, it is possible to hope for a world less absurd and more just than today's."

That hope, perhaps, explains another improbable truth of our economically catastrophic times – the revival in interest in Marx and Marxist thought. Sales of Das Kapital, Marx's masterpiece of political economy, have soared ever since 2008, as have those of The Communist Manifesto and the Grundrisse (or, to give it its English title, Outlines of the Critique of Political Economy). Their sales rose as British workers bailed out the banks to keep the degraded system going and the snouts of the rich firmly in their troughs while the rest of us struggle in debt, job insecurity or worse. There's even a Chinese theatre director called He Nian who capitalised on Das Kapital's renaissance to create an all-singing, all-dancing musical.

And in perhaps the most lovely reversal of the luxuriantly bearded revolutionary theorist's fortunes, Karl Marx was recently chosen from a list of 10 contenders to appear on a new issue of MasterCard by customers of German bank Sparkasse in Chemnitz. In communist East Germany from 1953 to 1990, Chemnitz was known as Karl Marx Stadt. Clearly, more than two decades after the fall of the Berlin Wall, the former East Germany hasn't airbrushed its Marxist past. In 2008, Reuters reports, a survey of east Germans found 52% believed the free-market economy was "unsuitable" and 43% said they wanted socialism back. Karl Marx may be dead and buried in Highgate cemetery, but he's alive and well among credit-hungry Germans. Would Marx have appreciated the irony of his image being deployed on a card to get Germans deeper in debt? You'd think.
Later this week in London, several thousand people will attend Marxism 2012, a five-day festival organised by the Socialist Workers' Party. It's an annual event, but what strikes organiser Joseph Choonara is how, in recent years, many more of its attendees are young. "The revival of interest in Marxism, especially for young people comes because it provides tools for analysing capitalism, and especially capitalist crises such as the one we're in now," Choonara says.

There has been a glut of books trumpeting Marxism's relevance. English literature professor Terry Eagleton last year published a book called Why Marx Was Right. French Maoist philosopher Alain Badiou published a little red book called The Communist Hypothesis with a red star on the cover (very Mao, very now) in which he rallied the faithful to usher in the third era of the communist idea (the previous two having gone from the establishment of the French Republic in 1792 to the massacre of the Paris communards in 1871, and from 1917 to the collapse of Mao's Cultural Revolution in 1976). Isn't this all a delusion?

Aren't Marx's venerable ideas as useful to us as the hand loom would be to shoring up Apple's reputation for innovation? Isn't the dream of socialist revolution and communist society an irrelevance in 2012? After all, I suggest to Rancière, the bourgeoisie has failed to produce its own gravediggers. Rancière refuses to be downbeat: "The bourgeoisie has learned to make the exploited pay for its crisis and to use them to disarm its adversaries. But we must not reverse the idea of historical necessity and conclude that the current situation is eternal. The gravediggers are still here, in the form of workers in precarious conditions like the over-exploited workers of factories in the far east. And today's popular movements – Greece or elsewhere – also indicate that there's a new will not to let our governments and our bankers inflict their crisis on the people."

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2013-10-24 11:10:54
auirzxp 发表于 2013-10-24 10:16
看了。这个是BBC的一个月度网络民意调查。

所以你说“马克思被西方资本主义国家评为历史上最有影响力的 ...
民意不是最大吗? 最具民主色彩?

又忘了, 民主的精义!

你们呀!
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2013-10-24 11:12:06
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2013-10-24 11:15:02
deng203 发表于 2013-10-24 10:34
大家对ZF的不满,转嫁到始作俑者身上了啊
文盲啊, losers?

斑竹提示:请注意语言文明!
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2013-10-24 11:15:10
      看不懂楼主是在干嘛?除了你说的指责马克思有私生子可算是论坛无直接关系的事情,你告诉我你怎么证明别人是在诋毁?在很多人看来,马克思的理论体系早就被驳的体无完肤了,难道还要在论坛上遮羞吗?你要是不认可某些言论大可直接反驳,看到对马克思不利的言论就说别人是在诋毁算什么心态?
      西方再怎么左转都不可能转到马克思那里去,所以,即便有所谓的“左转”也和马克思没太多关系,人家顶多知识把马克思名字抬出来而已,别真高兴了。金融危机之后资本论在德国畅销,但是在美国畅销的是哈耶克的通往奴役之路,所以你说资本论畅销又能说明什么?你只不过是在跟着别人唱一唱“金融危机之后西方左转”这样的陈词滥调而已,这种事情都拿来当证据只能说明你的了解实在少的可怜。连马克思都算伟大的哲学家,我都不晓得你从哪里听来的。
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2013-10-24 11:16:35
auirzxp 发表于 2013-10-24 10:16
看了。这个是BBC的一个月度网络民意调查。

所以你说“马克思被西方资本主义国家评为历史上最有影响力的 ...
看到了马的著作2008 又流行了? 你们呀, 就是不注意学习, too lazy!
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2013-10-24 11:19:28
通往自由之路 发表于 2013-10-24 11:15
看不懂楼主是在干嘛?除了你说的指责马克思有私生子可算是论坛无直接关系的事情,你告诉我你怎么证明 ...
你通往自由之路 的名字挺拉风吗, 2008, 自由主义崩溃, 哈耶克彻底下岗

你改个名字叫 通往下岗之路 如何? 赫赫
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2013-10-24 11:21:24
martni 发表于 2013-10-24 11:16
看到了马的著作2008 又流行了? 你们呀, 就是不注意学习, too lazy!
2008年金融危机嘛,所以大家有这个反思
马克思被当成卖点热卖过一阵儿
然后呢?
呵呵,——然后继续滞销
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2013-10-24 11:21:51
通往自由之路 发表于 2013-10-24 11:15
看不懂楼主是在干嘛?除了你说的指责马克思有私生子可算是论坛无直接关系的事情,你告诉我你怎么证明 ...
你这种loser也配跑出来?哈耶克的理论2008年危机的还不够? 还在捧臭脚?赫赫
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2013-10-24 11:23:13
洪木林 发表于 2013-10-24 11:21
2008年金融危机嘛,所以大家有这个反思
马克思被当成卖点热卖过一阵儿
然后呢?
人家的事情你……是怎么知道的? 奇怪,
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2013-10-24 11:29:01
今天给losers 就讲到这,本爷还要忙正事,您们……消化一下,呵呵,再见
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2013-10-24 11:32:27
crj302 发表于 2013-10-24 11:12
好的影响还是坏的影响?
问得好!

西方媒体基本都是分左右的,左派媒体时不时高唱几句马克思主义,就像大人吓唬小孩“鬼来了”一样,只不过是在给自己的ZF敲下警钟,提醒一下ZF要改进政策和管理,以防赤祸卷土重来,仅此而已。此外,某团伙对外宣传还不惜砸下重金,大搞形象工程,试图借洋人之口来个“出口转内销”,欺骗国民,像几年前的“德国之声中文部”事件那样,都是这种形象工程的杰作。
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2013-10-24 11:35:25
martni 发表于 2013-10-24 11:23
人家的事情你……是怎么知道的? 奇怪,
奇怪,那你又怎么知道马克思的书大卖呢?
……这年头出国有啥好炫耀的?脑子陈旧的话,就算去到火星,也只是火星**而已。
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2013-10-24 11:37:27
洪木林 发表于 2013-10-24 11:35
奇怪,那你又怎么知道马克思的书大卖呢?
……这年头出国有啥好炫耀的? ...
俺也买了,哈哈。 俺们这里英国人,德国人都有,要不你也过来?
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2013-10-24 11:45:12
martni 发表于 2013-10-24 11:34
删除
是国民养活某团伙,还是某团伙养活国民?还“拿TG的钱”,你是不是鼻涕水倒流了,简直无知透顶,亏你还笑得出来。
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2013-10-24 11:46:24
什么马什么通奴路,洋人们都好这口?这些书都是小众的吧?

外面是没机会去,喜欢看个美剧,从美剧上看,很多有点左向。
很多科幻美剧的中心思想:千万不要忘记自由斗争。能媲美美剧的也只有文歌时那几部片了。哈哈哈
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2013-10-24 11:46:38
he_zr 发表于 2013-10-24 11:45
是国民养活某团伙,还是某团伙养活国民?还“拿TG的钱”,你是不是鼻涕水倒流了,简直无知透顶,亏你还笑 ...
您是农民工? 您创造了什么价值? 上网发帖? 丢人.
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2013-10-24 11:47:34
he_zr 发表于 2013-10-24 11:45
是国民养活某团伙,还是某团伙养活国民?还“拿TG的钱”,你是不是鼻涕水倒流了,简直无知透顶,亏你还笑 ...
农民工现在都是毛左, 跟你们有什么关系? 别国民,国民的,
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2013-10-24 11:51:49
martni 发表于 2013-10-24 11:46
您是农民工? 您创造了什么价值? 上网发帖? 丢人.
又无知表现。我们这里每一个人几乎都不仅在现实中靠劳动养活自己,还包养着某团伙。你既无知又愚蠢,所以才会问这种傻不啦叽的问题。
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2013-10-24 11:53:28
martni 发表于 2013-10-24 11:47
农民工现在都是毛左, 跟你们有什么关系? 别国民,国民的,
“农民工都是毛左”,你这种拍脑袋信口雌黄的言论到处都是。
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2013-10-24 11:56:54
he_zr 发表于 2013-10-24 11:53
“农民工都是毛左”,你这种拍脑袋信口雌黄的言论到处都是。
你们呀, 动辄代表劳苦大众, 劳苦大众现在打着毛泽东的像要搞二次文革. 你们到底代表谁?

脑子有问题?
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