论坛里面有啊：https://bbs.pinggu.org/thread-4571070-1-1.html；https://bbs.pinggu.org/thread-3673544-1-1.html；

https://bbs.pinggu.org/thread-2937611-1-1.html；
https://bbs.pinggu.org/thread-4475020-1-1.html；
https://bbs.pinggu.org/thread-57375-1-1.html；
https://bbs.pinggu.org/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=824837&highlight=%D6%D0%B9%FA%2B%CD%B6%C8%EB%B2%FA%B3%F6%2B1997；