天知地知 发表于 2019-1-14 10:44 
资本是生产工具,不是钱,买(或者租)生产工具的钱是企业家出的。
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钱是企业家借资本家的 ...
资本是生产工具,不是钱,买(或者租)生产工具的钱是企业家出的。
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钱是企业家借资本家的,是资本家出的。
开公司,用钱入股的也是企业家。
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入股的是资本家。
除非他参与企业的创办、经营管理,那么他就是资本家兼任企业家。
企业家和资本家是一回事,都是追求利润的冒险家。
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胡说八道,指鹿为马。
一个提供企业家才能,一个提供资本,这是两种不同的生产要素。
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什么是企业家才能?
企业家才能就是 为了追求利润,特别能冒险,特别有创造力。(特别注意:职业经理人的才能不是企业家才能,职业经理人不是企业家entrepreneurs)
所有的公司股东都是企业家(entrepreneur,也叫资本家)。股东是入股,不是借钱给公司。这个你必须要明白。
不管公司将来怎样,公司都有责任归还债权人借款。
公司股东的股份不是借款。公司是追求利润的冒险体 (这个冒险体叫做enterprise(企业));全体股东是追求利润的冒险者。任何股东的股份都不是公司的借款。
参考文献:
1. (factorsof Production - The Economic Lowdown Podcast Series, Episode 2, US fed of St Louis 美联邦储备银行)
The third factor of production is capital. Think of capital as themachinery, tools and buildings humans use to produce goods and services. Somecommon examples of capital include hammers, forklifts, conveyer belts,computers, and delivery vans. Capital differs based on the worker and the typeof work being done. For example, a doctor may use a stethoscope and anexamination room to provide medical services. Your teacher may use textbooks,desks, and a whiteboard to produce education services. The income earned byowners of capital resources is interest.
The fourth factor of productionis entrepreneurship. An entrepreneur is a person who combines the other factorsof production - land, labor, and capital - to earn a profit. The mostsuccessful entrepreneurs are innovators who find new ways produce goods andservices or who develop new goods and services to bring to market. Without theentrepreneur combining land, labor, and capital in new ways, many of theinnovations we see around us would not exist. Think of the entrepreneurship ofHenry Ford or Bill Gates. Entrepreneurs are a vital engine of economic growthhelping to build some of the largest firms in the world as well as some of thesmall businesses in your neighborhood. Entrepreneurs thrive in economies wherethey have the freedom to start businesses and buy resources freely. The paymentto entrepreneurship is profit.
2. (Economicsprinciples and practices, G E Clayton pages 8 - 9)
Entrepreneurs:
some people are singled out because they are theinnovators responsible for much of the change in our economy. Such anindividual is an entrepreneur, a risk-taker in search of profits who doessomething new with existing resources. Entrepreneurs are often thought of asbeing the driving force in an economy because they are the people who start newbusinesses or bring new products to market.
Capital
another factor of production is capital sometimes called capital goods -the tools, equipmemt, machinery, and factories used in the production of goodsand services. ....