没有搞不清的问题，只有搞不清问题的脑袋。

那些放牧到哪就宣称哪是他们的土地，这除了说明多了你等几个同类，此外还能说明什么？

谁说印第安人反对农耕了？ 印第安人是自己耕种土地的，耕种+渔猎为生。

印第安人绝对不是主要以放牧为生的，他们之所以迁徙，经常性的搬家，是因为他们并没有像中国人一样掌握金属冶炼技术（这一点古代中国人是享受了非常发达的文明），因为没有金属的农具，所以不能在坚硬的土地上耕种，只能种在水边柔软的沙地，用树干树枝之类的工具可以进行农耕。

但沙地的问题是土壤肥力比较贫瘠，所以一般十年二十年最多30年以后就必须轮番换新的土地来耕种才能收获粮食，那么印第安人就必须搬到新的地方去，否则每天来回路上耕种通勤的时间太久，所以他们就一块块土地的搬家。耕种需要水源，所以印第安人主要集中住在河流、五大湖流域等湿地附近，适合耕种有灌溉水源。

印第安人有自己的文明，虽然文化落后但也是聪明的人。

印第安人怎么可能是野兽一样的人，很多最早期的欧洲移民、欧洲殖民者和当地印第安土著早已经通婚几百年，形成一大类新的混血土著民族，既不是纯种印第安，也不是纯种欧洲人，长相也确实不错。


曾经中国也一度很落后，所以被外国殖民者屠杀。

印第安有很多部落，各个部落之间也有对于土地的协议。还有很多联合酋长国之类，他们有自己的法律、协议、沟通、合作、部落之间的冲突。

直到今天，土著部落依然永久性享有属于自己部落的永久性领域和土地，外人不经允许绝不可以擅自闯入，否则土著部落有权开枪捍卫自己的土地，法律上早就承认了这一点，土著部落因为是原住民，拥有永久性属于自己的土地所有权，所以永远无需向ZF交纳任何的地税房产税，在属于自己部落土地上的收入好像也豁免了收入所得税，即使法律上不是如此规定，实际上也是近乎如此的操作

去看看托克维尔关于印第安人的论述。

你把托克维尔《论北美印第安人的命运》中的原话拿出来，他说的是所有的印第安人（包括南美的印第安人）都极力反对农耕，过的都是游猎生活吗？拿不出来原话就是你在编造谎言！

我所给出的《美国史》里面对印第安人的生活方式已经讲得很清楚，虽然有游猎、采集生活的，但也有不少过的是农耕生活，包括具体的地区分布、农业作物、耕作方式等都有具体介绍。具体一个地区以何种生活方式为主，在很大程度上是受自然条件制约的。这些都足以证明你的“印第安人极力反对农耕”就是你编造的谎言。

如果托克维尔说的就是百分百的事实和真理，那么你可以手捧红宝书，将其视为宇宙终极的真理

我上面所说的是北美一位资深考古学家对印第安人文明考古了一辈子所得出的结论，他做的报告。

他说，所有考古的发现让他明白了印第安人是多么聪明的人，如何懂得利用各种自然环境和条件来尽可能的为自己创造好的生活条件。（确实没有中国人聪明因为中国人懂得冶炼金属）

印第安人住在水草地附近是因为他们没有金属工具去挖土壤，为了节省劳动力，所以要在松软的土地上耕种。但这种土壤沙化比较快，所以印第安人轮种，几十年就在附近换块地，让土壤休耕。
东北地区部落的LONG HOUSE



虽然深信黑人种族，印第安人整体的文化远远落后于亚洲和欧洲人，但他们也并不蠢

请你拿出所有印第安人包括南美的印第安人都极力反对农耕的原话，拿不出就是你在编造谎言！

请你给出“印第安人跟动物没多大区别”的历史事实，给不出就是你在颠倒黑白！

（另有一个关于农耕的回复正在审核）

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The Green Corn Festival was celebrated by many Indian tribes in one form or another. These early people were very grateful for their harvests. Tribes held several festivals each year to say prayers of thanks to their gods. One of the most important was the Green Corn Festival. This festival was held in late summer or early fall, when the corn they had planted had ripened on the stalk. The expression "green corn" refers to ripened sweet corn, corn you could eat.

These early people were great farmers. They depended on three staples - corn, beans, and squash. In the Woodland areas, these food items were so important that they had a name. They were called "The Three Sisters". The Three Sisters were mixed together to make a vegetable dish called succotash. But corn was always special.

Even after the Green Corn Festival, some corn was left on the stalk to additionally ripen, to help the drying process. Dried corn and dried corn meal were both very important staple items to help these early people eat well through the long winter ahead.

Boiled Corn Bread: The Iroquois Indians made a wonderful boiled corn bread. They made flour by pounding corn into flour. To make bread, they mixed water with corn flour. Sometimes cooked beans were added, or berries or nuts. The bread was kneaded and formed into small loaves. The loaves were dropped into boiling water and cooked until the bread floated. Boiled corn bread was served both hot and cold. They also used the same bread mix to bake bread by putting it on clay tablets in the fire. They used sunflower oil to fry bread.


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The Iroquois celebrate six major festivals a year. This includes, the New Years Festival in the winter, the Maple Festival in the spring. the Corn Planting Festival, the Strawberry Festival, the Green Corn Festival, and the Harvest Festival of Thanksgiving. The government consists of a high council in each village. All representatives of the council are elected by members of the tribe. 50 sachems, or peace-makers, are members of the council. The Iroquois Indians do not practice a dominant religion, they just believe in supernatural spirits. The main spirit is the Great-Creator, who is said to be the creator of all things on Earth. They also worshiped Thunderer and the the Three Sisters, the spirits of corn, beans, and squash

Iroquois Indian Tribe  （纽约州附近的印第安部落）

Interesting Facts
    . The boys weren't allowed to hunt with the men until they caught an animal of their own
    . The Iroquois Indians were mainly farmers
    . They would move to a new area once the fields stopped producing good crops
    . Corn, beans, and squash were nicknamed "The 3 Sisters" because those were the 3 main crops
    . The women took care of the crops while the men hunted
    . Their favorite food was corn cakes
    . The women were more powerful than the men
    . Women chose the chief, when a man got married he lived with the mother's clan and so did the children

Location
      The Iroquois lived in what is now present-day New York State near the St. Lawerence River, and between the Adirondack Mountains and Niagara Falls. Between wars and conquest, they gained land in much of North Eastern North America, and Canada. During the Revolutionary War however, the Iroquois lost much land in New York. They were also called the "Five Nations". The Iroquois lived in two large, ranch houses that can hold up to 30 to 60 indians. These houses could be 150 feet long.

东南部密西西比河流域的印第安人也主要是农民耕种为生

This article contains interesting facts, pictures and information about the life of the Choctaw Native American Indian Tribe of the Southeast cultural group.

The Choctaw Tribe
Summary and Definition: The Choctaw tribe descended from the ancient mound builders located in the Mississippi River valley. The Choctaw people moved across the southeast and established large, organised settlements in Mississippi, Alabama, Florida and Louisiana. The Creek people were farmers growing crops of corn, beans, squash, trading surplus produce to other tribes.

西南沙漠地带的Apache Tribe印第安部落打猎游牧为生，但沙漠地带现在依然是沙漠，只有小片的绿洲有植被
西南部自然条件好的一些印第安部落也以耕种为主

The Apache Tribe
Summary and Definition: The Apache tribe were a fierce, strong and war-like nation who roamed the arid desert lands of  Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas. The Apache tribe fiercely resisted the invasion of the Spanish, the Mexicans and then the Americans. The names of the most famous war chiefs of the Apache tribe included Cochise, Geronimo and Victorio.


Facts about the Apache Native Indian Tribe
This article contains fast, fun facts and interesting information about the Apache Native American Indian tribe. Find answers to questions like where did the Apache tribe live, what clothes did they wear, what did they eat and who were the names of their most famous leaders? Discover what happened to the Apache tribe with facts about their wars and history.

What was the lifestyle and culture of the Apache tribe?
The Apaches were a nomadic tribe of hunter gatherers. Men were in charge of hunting for food and protecting the camp and the women were in charge of the home. The name 'Apache' came from the Zuni word 'apachu' meaning "enemy". The Apaches formerly roamed over southeastern Arizona and south-western Mexico. The Apaches were extremely strong and fit and it was said that a warrior could run a hundred miles in a day or climb a high mountain and not be out of breath.


Where did the Apache tribe live?
The Apache are people of the Southwest Native American cultural group. The location of their tribal homelands are shown on the map. The geography of the region in which they lived dictated the lifestyle and culture of the Apache tribe.

What did the Apache tribe eat?
The food that the Apache tribe ate depended on the natural resources of the area they roamed in. Small game, such as rabbit was a staple part of their diet together with corn, sheep and goats that they often traded with the farming Native Indians that lived in the Southwest. Other food items included beans, sunflower seeds and squash. The Apache drank a beer made from corn called tiswin (tesguino, tulipai) To make tiswin green corn sprouts or corn stalks were pressed for the juices, which then were heated. The Apache tribe were a resourceful people and could subsist on herbs and roots. They were able to satisfy their thirst when traveling through the desert regions by chewing on a piece of bark or moss which started the flow of saliva.
The Apache tribe lived in the American southwest desert regions in the states of Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas

Land: It was a dry, arid, rocky land dotted with cactus

Climate: The climate was hot with little rain

Animals: The desert animals were reptiles and snakes. Livestock included sheep and goats and wild turkey

Natural Resources: The natural resources of the area were corn, beans, sunflower seeds and squash

东南部另一个部落也是农业部落
Creek Native Indian Tribe of the Southeast cultural group.

The Creek Tribe
Summary and Definition: The Creek tribe, aka the Muskogee, descended from the mound builders located in the Mississippi River valley. The people moved across the southeast and established large, organised settlements in Georgia, Alabama, North Carolina and Florida. The Creek people were farmers growing crops of corn, beans, squash, melons, pumpkins and sweet potatoes. The most famous Creek chiefs were Red Feather and Osceola

原来印第安人是根据自然条件决定生活方式的，因为没有金属工具，大草原地带和沙漠地带主要是打猎为生，水源附近容易耕种，主要是农业。

印第安部落之间也是千差万别的，到现在也是如此，富裕的部落富庶无忧，靠天吃饭悠悠闲闲，穷困边缘寒冷地区的部落连基本生活用品和蔬菜都保证不了

沙漠地带打猎的印第安部落用猎物和农业发达的部落交换粮食

我看不惯骗子的横行。

托克维尔不需要百分之百的准确，他论述的是基本事实就行。

这里涉及的是殖民时代的印第安人生活状况，他们整体上以什么为生，是农耕还是游猎是他们的主要生活方式，有谁否认古代印第安人也很聪明呢？因此，请看清议题。

据皮尔逊教授在《托克维尔和博蒙在美国》统计，托克维尔一行主要考察的地区是新英格兰，同时也去了五大湖地区、加拿大、俄亥俄州、田纳西州、新奥尔良、查尔斯顿。他们拜访的人非常多，包括和大量的普通人（包括印第安人）进行过交谈。托克维尔和博蒙有很强的追根问底精神，每当与人交谈的时候，他们总是会追问很多问题，反复请教，并认真记录下来，前后整整用了14个笔记本。据托克维尔事后说，因为他是外来客人，待一段时间就会离开，因此某些主人会对他讲述一些不便透露给亲朋好友的内情。

你不是想要原话吗？去查阅他那14个笔记本，想毕你一定看到。别自己无知就在这里乱叫！

人家都说他们的生活方式是“roamed the arid desert lands of  Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas”，居无定所，对这种居无定所的游民能为多少人交换提供粮食呢？我看是零星少量的互通有无罢了，根本说明不了什么问题。

请你不要偷换你的论题！你说的是“印第安人极力反对农耕”，而不是印第安人的生活不以农耕为主！
在人类进入农业社会以前，世界上任何一个民族都没有农耕生活，你能说那时每一个民族都极力反对农耕生活吗？现在世界上许多生活在不适宜农耕自然条件下的民族也都没有农耕生活，你能说这些民族都极力反对农耕吗？
所以，你用一些印第安人的非农耕生活来证明印第安人极力反对农耕就是在偷换论题，混淆视听！因此，你必须拿出“印第安人极力反对农耕”的证据来！
并且这些证据必须包括：
第一，不仅有北美印第安人极力反对农耕的证据，而且还有南美印第安人极力反对农耕的证据；
第二，不仅有非农耕部落极力反对农耕的证据，而且还有农耕部落极力反对农耕的证据。

根据谁主张谁举证的原则，上述这些证据必须由你来提供。如果你无法提供这些证据，就证明“印第安人极力反对农耕”就是你编造的谎言！

请你给出“印第安人跟动物没多大区别”的历史事实，给不出就是你在颠倒黑白！

你认为“印第安人跟动物没多大区别”是学术语言吗？这句话就是he_zr的原话，他既然说出了这样的话，当然就有义务给予证明，怎么能叫断章取义？

确切说，印第安人极力反对农耕，印第安人的生活不以农耕为主，这是两个具有相互作用的关系，前者是原因之一，但不是我说的，后者则是结果，哪存在有原因无结果的事？你在这里无知乱叫什么？

证据都在托克维尔那14本笔记里，感兴趣就自己去查看。

四处游猎觅食，居无定所，这是不是印第安人的生活方式？这是不是历史事实？这种生活方式跟动物有多大区别？

请你明确回答我64楼的问题——
在人类进入农业社会以前，世界上任何一个民族都没有农耕生活，你能说那时每一个民族都极力反对农耕生活吗？现在世界上许多生活在不适宜农耕自然条件下的民族也都没有农耕生活，你能说这些民族都极力反对农耕吗？
如果你不能做出肯定的回答，那就证明“极力反对农耕”与“不以农耕为主”并无必然的因果关系，因此，你必须拿出“印第安人极力反对农耕”的证据来。

根据谁主张谁举证的原则，上述这些证据必须由你来提供。如果你无法提供这些证据，就证明“印第安人极力反对农耕”就是你编造的谎言！

我26楼引用的美国历史学家艾伦•布林克利在《美国史》中的相关介绍你为什么故意视而不见？他介绍的印第安人大量的农耕生活不是历史事实吗？这些印第安人的生活都跟动物差不多吗？
其次，你为什么说印第安游猎部落的生活都跟动物差不多？就为了替你的主子抢夺了印第安人的土地洗地吗？！