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2010-05-18
These 3 traders under 30, the Hoffmans say, are worth their weight in gold. (Which is good, because they're probably paid at least that much.) "Definitely they're making millions,"  says  Damien Hoffman, but beyond that it's hard to get an exact figure he admits.

Here are the Top 3 Traders Under 30:

#3  Jan Sramek, Goldman Sachs. Age: 23  Sramek  makes his fortune as a trader on the Emerging market s desk at Goldman's London Office. At the tender age of 23, he's already published the book Racing Towards Excellence, founded and sold a social media website and has the ear of most of London's major hedge fund managers.

#2 Gilbert Mendez, SMB Capital. Age: 28 After studying mechanical engineering at Columbia University, Gilbert built a black-box trading model for the global Forex currency market. He then sold it before becoming the "head trader" at SMB and now its youngest partner.  He presently focuses on trading equities.

#1 Adam Guren, First New York Securities. Age: 28 This Duke graduate and former professional soccer player gets little sleep trading markets all over the world, at all hours of the day.  He cut his teeth trading Chinese equities but now looks to profit on any market volatility around the globe.  He starts his process by logging on premarket. Then he spends approximately an hour, sometimes thirty minutes, seeing if there's news out in the basket of stocks he follows. This is how he figures out if there's any opportunities because he looks for newsworthy events that are going to move his stocks, according to the Wall Street Cheat Sheet.
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2010-5-18 06:18:30
交易这东西跟围棋一样。  围棋是十多岁不能成名就没希望;做交易如果两三年还不成才也没希望。

投行的大部分交易员的年纪都在30上下,再老一点的要不就转做了管理层,要不就走了单干,要不就赚够了钱退休享受人生。  当然,在这些成功的例子下面还躺了95%的失败者,那些没有坚持到最后的人。

唉,如果我也能有机会成为他们其中的一员。。。。。
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2010-5-18 06:51:00
看来一个trader的职业寿命是如此的短暂......
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2010-5-18 07:00:11
Exclusive Interview: Pro Trader Adam Guren
With five years experience as a professional trader, Guren has a wealth of great information for pros and novices alike. Our conversation includes Guren’s start as a trader, techniques for trading, and advice on what leads to success in the markets.

I started at First NY in the training program which is basically a clerkship where I learned how to trade various strategies. I was placed on the international desk and went through a 14 month program before I started trading on my own.

When I first came out of the training program I was trading Europe and the US. Then I decided I wanted to focus more on Asia because “China” was the buzzword back in ‘04-’05 and that’s where the growth was. From there, China took off and peaked in ‘07. Since I focused on China during its bubble phase, I was able to make a lot of money. Since the global markets have been heading down, I’ve been trading a global book. Although I still trade China, I have broadened out and trade financials in Europe, the US, and Asia.

Adam: Exactly. The best volatility and volume comes on the open and close of every market. So that’s when I do a majority of my trading. I get more bang for my buck at the opening and close.

How do you trade each successive market?

Adam: My trading style changes every year or so. The markets change. So I adapt to where I think there is money to be made. For example, I started my career trading European ADRs such as Nokia and BP. I had a basket of 50 names I followed. I got really good at trading those names just by keeping up with what’s going on. Once I got good at trading 50 names, I didn’t have to do too much prep because I was pretty much up to speed as far as research goes. So I took this style and applied it to Asia ADRs with BHP, Toyota, Sony, China Mobile.

So how do you know when to enter or exit a stock?

Adam: Good question. Getting into a stock is my strength. Getting out is not my strong suit. I use stops to manage risk, but sometimes I exit too soon and don’t let my profits run. I guess I just try to take profits when they are there. Especially in these volatile times. My old boss told me, “You don’t go broke taking profits.”

Let’s say I’m long something and in the money. If I think it’s right to sell, I’ll just sell it. But that breaks a basic rule because most pro traders will tell you “Don’t sell unless you think you should be shorting it.” I don’t trade that way. If I think I’m right, then I say, “I’m going to take this [trade] off now, take my profits, and move on to the next trade.”

Another rule is to leave a scrap on. I’m pretty good at this. For example, if I have 10,000 shares of something and I want to get out, I may sell 9,000 and leave the scrap on just to see where it goes. Over the long run, that really pays off if you do it enough.

What about risk-reward?

Adam: Every trade I get into I have a very good understanding of the risk-reward. One of the keys to success is measuring risk-reward. And one of the best ways to do that, as elementary as it sounds, is to buy low and sell high. So you want to buy when things are beat up and sell when things are overdone on the upside. I’d say I do a good job of measuring risk. It’s probably one of the main reasons why I am successful at trading.

Do you prefer to trade long or short?

Adam: Actually, I prefer to trade long because I’m a natural optimist, so it’s painful for me to watch the market go down. But I can make money either way. In fact, I made more money in 2008 than 2007. But I still find it more difficult to trade a down market because the moves are more volatile. Maybe that’s simply because we just went through the most volatile time in history and we happened to be going down. I don’t know. But down markets are known for having strong volatility on the way down and outrageous short squeezes back up. So you have to be very careful when you’re trading and make sure to have tight stops while taking profits when you have them.

So, with all the volatility, are you flat [all cash] at the end of the day? Or will you hold stuff longer term?

Adam: I’m almost never flat at the end of the day because I really don’t have an end of day. I am holding stocks across many markets so they can be affected when others are open. But 90% of my positions are held under a week
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2010-5-18 20:41:08
feng-pan 发表于 2010-5-18 06:18
交易这东西跟围棋一样。  围棋是十多岁不能成名就没希望;做交易如果两三年还不成才也没希望。

投行的大部分交易员的年纪都在30上下,再老一点的要不就转做了管理层,要不就走了单干,要不就赚够了钱退休享受人生。  当然,在这些成功的例子下面还躺了95%的失败者,那些没有坚持到最后的人。

唉,如果我也能有机会成为他们其中的一员。。。。。
这是最top的,其身价=黄金铸成他们的体重。
你要想成为职业trader现在就可以开始申请。
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2010-5-18 20:47:38
tommytree 发表于 2010-5-18 06:51
看来一个trader的职业寿命是如此的短暂......
在NY stock exchange floor 也可看很多年龄在40~50的traders。

自古英雄出少年,年收入百万美元以上的在每个行业都有几个。
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