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2025-3-16 15:15:44
jesusman 发表于 2025-3-16 11:46
再来个,有种药10克补身20克致死,A和B各往有水的杯里放10克,C端着水杯给D喝下至其死亡,ABC三人行为哪个 ...
你找一万个前提是原因的例子,也不能证明你M怀你是你瘸腿的原因啊,你费这劲干嘛呀?

照基督男的愚蠢逻辑,ABCD他们的母亲分别怀他们,都是D死亡的原因呢,哈哈哈
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2025-3-16 16:20:23
jesusman 发表于 2025-3-16 11:46
再来个,有种药10克补身20克致死,A和B各往有水的杯里放10克,C端着水杯给D喝下至其死亡,ABC三人行为哪个 ...
就算三人的行为都是原因,跟你有啥关系,你找的原因是ABCD的母亲分别坏了他们,哈哈哈
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2025-3-16 17:13:44
clm0600 发表于 2025-3-16 15:15
你找一万个前提是原因的例子,也不能证明你M怀你是你瘸腿的原因啊,你费这劲干嘛呀?

照基督男的愚蠢逻 ...
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你M怀你,关我价格毛事

你瘸腿原因,关是不是前提毛事

废物~!
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2025-3-16 17:15:45
clm0600 发表于 2025-3-16 15:07
基督男又不要脸了,给你扫盲的是:在某些情况下,前提可以是原因!
而在另一些情况下,前提就不是原因! ...
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你说错就错啊,你倒是放个和错相关的P出来嘛

去扯毫不相关的是不是前提,关你说错还是说对毛事。
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2025-3-16 17:17:41
clm0600 发表于 2025-3-16 16:20
就算三人的行为都是原因,跟你有啥关系,你找的原因是ABCD的母亲分别坏了他们,哈哈哈
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当然有关啊,我说是原因,你说因为是前提所以不是原因,现在你自抽耳光承认前提可以是原因,还不跪下唱征服。
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2025-3-16 17:30:50
jesusman 发表于 2025-3-16 17:17
当然有关啊,我说是原因,你说因为是前提所以不是原因,现在你自抽耳光承认前提可以是原因,还不跪下唱征 ...
我说是原因,你说因为是前提所以不是原因
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基督男瞪眼说瞎话,造谣都不打草稿啊,你哪只眼睛看见我说“因为是前提”了?
我说的是那只是前提,而不是原因!

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2025-3-16 17:35:01
jesusman 发表于 2025-3-16 17:15
你说错就错啊,你倒是放个和错相关的P出来嘛

去扯毫不相关的是不是前提,关你说错还是说对毛事。
基督男自己说的“条件就是原因”,是你把前提条件和原因混为一谈,我当然要扫盲教你二者的区别呀。
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2025-3-16 17:36:00
clm0600 发表于 2025-3-16 17:30
我说是原因,你说因为是前提所以不是原因
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基督男瞪眼说瞎话,造谣都不打草稿啊,你哪只眼睛看 ...
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废物一边网上搜来文盲区分前提和原因的话来证明不是原因,一边承认前提可以是原因,一边又改口说这只是前提不是原因。

我管你是不是前提,现在我说他是原因,要反驳你倒是拿出个像样的玩意来嘛。
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2025-3-16 17:40:52
clm0600 发表于 2025-3-16 17:30
我说是原因,你说因为是前提所以不是原因
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基督男瞪眼说瞎话,造谣都不打草稿啊,你哪只眼睛看 ...
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不说因为是前提所以不是原因,当我说这是原因时,你干嚎这是前提做什么。

就像我说小六子是男的,你为了反驳我干嚎你一米三身高作甚?哈哈
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2025-3-16 17:59:42
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2025-3-17 10:30:09
jesusman 发表于 2025-3-16 18:21
看看,前提、直接原因、间接原因、主要原因、次要原因这些概念,把小六子这人造草履虫都给愁傻了,更别提 ...
基督男讨论不下去,就开始在这里装疯卖傻打岔了!

别跑,你M怀你,到底关不关你价格毛事?哈哈哈哈
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2025-3-17 12:50:17
jesusman 发表于 2025-3-17 11:20
我的价格属于既遂的行为,只被包含在已发生的事实中。废物幻想自己腿瘸还想和我客观真实价格产生联系?做 ...
基督男瞪眼造谣!我给你的扫盲文说的清楚,哪来的“用是前提证明不是原因”?

前提和原因 不是 一回事,尽管它们在某些情况下可能看起来相似或可以互换使用
前提 :前提是指事物存在或发生的条件或基础。它是某个事件或情况能够发生的前提条件,通常是一个已知的事实或假设。
例如,在逻辑推理中,前提是指那些被接受为真的陈述,它们是推理的基础。

原因 :原因是指导致某个事件或情况发生的因素或理由。它是解释某个结果为何会发生的关键因素。
例如,在“儿子想吃鱼香肉丝,我才做的”这个例子中,“儿子想吃”是“我做鱼香肉丝”的原因。

区别:
基础与结果 :前提是事件发生的基础条件,而原因是导致事件发生的关键因素。
感性与现实 :前提通常是感性的、经验的,而原因是更加抽象的、超验的。
逻辑关系 :前提在逻辑推理中起作用,而原因是因果关系的组成部分。

例子:
前提 :没有肉丝我就做不了鱼香肉丝。(肉丝是鱼香肉丝的前提)
原因 :儿子想吃鱼香肉丝,我才做的。(儿子的想吃是做饭的原因)

尽管在某些情况下,前提和原因可能看起来可以互换使用,但它们在逻辑和哲学上有明确的区别。理解这两个概念的区别有助于更准确地分析问题和进行逻辑推理。
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2025-3-17 13:26:33
clm0600 发表于 2025-3-17 12:50
基督男瞪眼造谣!我给你的扫盲文说的清楚,哪来的“用是前提证明不是原因”?

前提和原因 不是 一回事 ...
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你不用前提来证明“不是原因”,那扯毛前提,莫非又犯病了?
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2025-3-17 14:36:15
clm0600 发表于 2025-3-17 12:50
基督男瞪眼造谣!我给你的扫盲文说的清楚,哪来的“用是前提证明不是原因”?

前提和原因 不是 一回事 ...
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我管你前提不前提,人造草履虫拿小本子记下:这是 David Kellogg Lewis 提出的Counterfactual Theories of Causation,俗称but-for 因果关系。蠢货!
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2025-3-17 14:53:54
jesusman 发表于 2025-3-17 13:28
我主贴中所有原因都是指直接原因,推翻你二大爷吧
看看你放过的P——“其存在的唯一直接原因那一定是人既遂的交换行为本身。”
你二大爷也救不了你呀,哈哈哈
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2025-3-17 14:55:58
jesusman 发表于 2025-3-17 13:26
你不用前提来证明“不是原因”,那扯毛前提,莫非又犯病了?
你扯“无这即无那。。。”就是在扯前提呀,哈哈哈哈,这是你先扯的呀。
我也奇怪呀,说原因呢,你扯毛前提呀!
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2025-3-17 14:58:30
jesusman 发表于 2025-3-17 13:23
所以说你蠢,这不但是推翻,还证明实际上价格和既遂交换行为是同意反复,是不是又傻了
你承认你推翻了自己就好嘛。
反正基督男说既遂交换行为是“唯一直接原因”,哈哈哈哈,你再往前倒腾肯定不是直接原因了。
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2025-3-17 16:47:51
clm0600 发表于 2025-3-17 14:55
你扯“无这即无那。。。”就是在扯前提呀,哈哈哈哈,这是你先扯的呀。
我也奇怪呀,说原因呢,你扯毛前 ...
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我在说原因便可,这原因是不是前提关我毛事

就像我说你是废物,还管你这废物是不是人造草履虫呐
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2025-3-17 17:45:35
jesusman 发表于 2025-3-17 16:47
我在说原因便可,这原因是不是前提关我毛事

就像我说你是废物,还管你这废物是不是人造草履虫呐
我在说原因便可,这原因是不是前提关我毛事
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问题就出在你说的不是原因!
你自以为在说原因,但实际上说的是前提,你根本分不清前提和原因!

继续扫盲!基督男朗读100遍:
前提和原因 不是 一回事,尽管它们在某些情况下可能看起来相似或可以互换使用。
前提 :前提是指事物存在或发生的条件或基础。它是某个事件或情况能够发生的前提条件,通常是一个已知的事实或假设。
例如,在逻辑推理中,前提是指那些被接受为真的陈述,它们是推理的基础。

原因 :原因是指导致某个事件或情况发生的因素或理由。它是解释某个结果为何会发生的关键因素。
例如,在“儿子想吃鱼香肉丝,我才做的”这个例子中,“儿子想吃”是“我做鱼香肉丝”的原因。

区别:
基础与结果 :前提是事件发生的基础条件,而原因是导致事件发生的关键因素。
感性与现实 :前提通常是感性的、经验的,而原因是更加抽象的、超验的。
逻辑关系 :前提在逻辑推理中起作用,而原因是因果关系的组成部分。

例子:
前提 :没有肉丝我就做不了鱼香肉丝。(肉丝是鱼香肉丝的前提)
原因 :儿子想吃鱼香肉丝,我才做的。(儿子的想吃是做饭的原因)

尽管在某些情况下,前提和原因可能看起来可以互换使用,但它们在逻辑和哲学上有明确的区别。理解这两个概念的区别有助于更准确地分析问题和进行逻辑推理。
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2025-3-17 19:08:34
clm0600 发表于 2025-3-17 17:45
我在说原因便可,这原因是不是前提关我毛事
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问题就出在你说的不是原因!
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你到底认为我说的是不是原因?

你认为不是原因,倒是拿出不是原因的理由来嘛,扯可以是原因的前提没毛用...

你要认为是原因,还叨比叨半天做什么,扯可以是原因的前提没毛用...

无论你认为是原因还是不是原因,扯可以是原因的前提就是人造草履虫,明否?
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2025-3-17 19:11:33
clm0600 发表于 2025-3-17 14:58
你承认你推翻了自己就好嘛。
反正基督男说既遂交换行为是“唯一直接原因”,哈哈哈哈,你再往前倒腾肯定 ...
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我证明“唯一直接原因”为假,说明有两种可能:1.有唯一直接原因但不是既遂交换行为 2.直接原因不仅有一个

推出“往前倒腾不是直接原因”,只是你个草履虫罢了
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2025-3-17 19:35:09
clm0600 发表于 2025-3-17 17:45
我在说原因便可,这原因是不是前提关我毛事
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问题就出在你说的不是原因!
弄了堆网上文盲话来回复制粘贴,彰显你的更文盲?复制黏贴谁不会啊
Counterfactual Theories of CausationFirst published Wed Jan 10, 2001; substantive revision Mon Apr 1, 2024




1. Lewis’s 1973 Counterfactual Analysis

The guiding idea behind counterfactual analyses of causation is the thought that – as David Lewis puts it – “We think of a cause as something that makes a difference, and the difference it makes must be a difference from what would have happened without it. Had it been absent, its effects – some of them, at least, and usually all – would have been absent as well” (1973b, 161).

The first explicit definition of causation in terms of counterfactuals was, surprisingly enough, given by Hume, when he wrote: “We may define a cause to be an object followed by another, and where all the objects, similar to the first, are followed by objects similar to the second. Or, in other words, where, if the first object had not been, the second never had existed” (1748, Section VII). It is difficult to understand how Hume could have confused the first, regularity definition with the second, very different counterfactual definition (though see Buckle 2004: 212–13 for a brief discussion).

At any rate, Hume never explored the alternative counterfactual approach to causation. In this, as in much else, he was followed by generations of empiricist philosophers. The chief obstacle in empiricists’ minds to explaining causation in terms of counterfactuals was the obscurity of counterfactuals themselves, owing chiefly to their reference to unactualised possibilities. The true potential of the counterfactual approach to causation did not become clear until counterfactuals became better understood through the development of possible world semantics in the early 1970s (see Beebee 2022).

The best known and most thoroughly elaborated counterfactual theory of causation is David Lewis’s theory in his (1973b). Lewis’s theory was refined and extended in articles subsequently collected in his (1986a). In response to doubts about the theory’s treatment of preemption, Lewis subsequently proposed a fairly radical revision of the theory (2000/2004a). In this section we shall confine our attention to the original 1973 theory, deferring the later changes he proposed for consideration below.

1.1 Counterfactuals and Causal Dependence

Like most contemporary counterfactual theories, Lewis’s theory employs a possible world semantics for counterfactuals. Such a semantics states truth conditions for counterfactuals in terms of similarity relations between possible worlds. Lewis famously espouses realism about possible worlds, according to which non-actual possible worlds are real concrete entities on a par with the actual world (Lewis 1986e). However, most contemporary philosophers would seek to deploy the explanatorily fruitful possible worlds framework while distancing themselves from full-blown realism about possible worlds themselves (see the entry on possible worlds).

The central notion of a possible world semantics for counterfactuals is a relation of comparative similarity between worlds (Lewis 1973a). One world is said to be closer to actuality than another if the first resembles the actual world more than the second does. In terms of this similarity relation, the truth condition for the counterfactual “If A were (or had been) the case, C would be (or have been) the case” is stated as follows:

(1)“If A were the case, C would be the case” is true in the actual world if and only if either (i) there are no possible A-worlds; or (ii) some A-world where C holds is closer to the actual world than is any A-world where C does not hold.

We shall ignore the first case in which the counterfactual is vacuously true. The fundamental idea of this analysis is that the counterfactual “If A were the case, C would be the case” is true just in case it takes less of a departure from actuality to make the antecedent true along with the consequent than to make the antecedent true without the consequent.

In terms of counterfactuals, Lewis defines a notion of causal dependence between events, which plays a central role in his theory of causation (1973b).

(2)Where c and e are two distinct possible events, e causally depends on c if and only if, if c were to occur e would occur; and if c were not to occur e would not occur.

This condition states that whether e occurs or not depends on whether c occurs or not. Where c and e are events that actually occur, this truth condition can be simplified somewhat. For in this case it follows from the second formal condition on the comparative similarity relation that the counterfactual “If c were to occur e would occur” is automatically true: this formal condition implies that a counterfactual with true antecedent and true consequent is itself true. Consequently, the truth condition for causal dependence becomes:

(3)Where c and e are two distinct actual events, e causally depends on c if and only if, if c were not to occur e would not occur.

There are three important things to note about the definition of causal dependence. First, it takes the primary relata of causal dependence to be events. Lewis’s own theory of events (1986b) construes events as classes of possible spatiotemporal regions. However, different conceptions of events are compatible with the basic definition (Kim 1973a; for an alternative broadly Lewisian take on events see McDonnell 2016 and Kaiserman 2017). Indeed, it even seems possible to formulate it in terms of facts rather than events (Mellor 1995, 2004).

Second, the definition requires the causally dependent events to be distinct from each other. Distinctness means that the events are not identical, neither is part of the other, and neither implies the other. This qualification is important if spurious non-causal dependences are to be ruled out. (For this point see Kim 1973b and Lewis 1986b.) For while you would not have written ‘Larry’ if you had not written ‘rr’; and you would not have said ‘Hello’ loudly if you had not said ‘Hello’, neither dependence counts as a causal dependence since the paired events are not distinct from each other in the required sense.

Convinced by the need to make room in his analysis for causation by (and of) absence – as when the gardener’s failure to water the plants causes their death – Lewis later amended his view to the view that causal dependence is a matter of counterfactual dependence between events or their absences (Lewis 2000: §X; 2004b). We shall largely ignore this complication in what follows; for some discussion of causation by absence see Schaffer 2000b, Beebee 2004b, McGrath 2005, Livengood and Machery 2007, Dowe 2009.

Third, the counterfactuals that are employed in the analysis are to be understood according to what Lewis calls the standard interpretation. There are several possible ways of interpreting counterfactuals; and some interpretations give rise to spurious non-causal dependences between events. For example, suppose that the events c and e are effects of a common cause d. It is tempting to reason that there must be a causal dependence between c and e by engaging in the following piece of counterfactual reasoning: if c had not occurred, then d would not have occurred; and if d had not occurred, e would not have occurred. But Lewis says the former counterfactual, which he calls a backtracking counterfactual, is not to be used in the assessment of causal dependence. The right counterfactuals to be used are non-backtracking counterfactuals that typically hold the past fixed up until the time (or just before the time) at which the counterfactual’s antecedent is supposed to obtain. Thus if c had not occurred, d – which in fact occurred before c – would have occurred anyway; so on the standard interpretation, where backtracking counterfactuals are false, the inference to the claim that e causally depends on c is blocked.

1.2 The Temporal Asymmetry of Causal Dependence

What constitutes the direction of the causal relation? Why is this direction typically aligned with the temporal direction from past to future? In answer to these questions, Lewis (1979) argues that the direction of causation is the direction of causal dependence; and it is typically true that events causally depend on earlier events but not on later events. He emphasises the contingency of the latter fact because he regards backwards or time-reversed causation as a conceptual possibility that cannot be ruled out a priori. Accordingly, he dismisses any analysis of counterfactuals that would deliver the temporal asymmetry by conceptual fiat.

Lewis’s explanation of the temporal asymmetry of counterfactual dependence comes from a combination of his analysis of the similarity relation together with the (alleged) ‘asymmetry of overdetermination’ – a contingent feature of the world. According to this analysis, there are several respects of similarity to be taken into account in evaluating non-backtracking counterfactuals: similarity with respect to laws of nature and also similarity with respect to particular matters of fact. Worlds are more similar to the actual world the fewer miracles or violations of the actual laws of nature they contain. Again, worlds are more similar to the actual world the greater the spatio-temporal region of perfect match of particular fact they have with the actual world. If the laws of the actual world are deterministic, these rules will clash in assessing which counterfactual worlds are more similar to the actual world. For a world that makes a counterfactual antecedent true must differ from the actual world either in allowing some violation of the actual laws (a ‘divergence miracle’), or in differing from the actual world in particular fact. Lewis’s analysis allows a tradeoff between these competing respects of similarity in such cases. It implies that worlds with an extensive region of perfect match of particular fact can be considered very similar to the actual world provided that the match in particular facts with the actual world is achieved at the cost of a small, local miracle, but not at the cost of a big, diverse miracle.

Taken by itself, this account contains no built-in time asymmetry. That comes only when the account is combined with the asymmetry of overdetermination: the (alleged) fact that effects are rarely overdetermined by their causes, but causes are very often overdetermined by their effects. Taking an example from Elga (2000): suppose that Gretta cracks an egg at 8.00 (event c), pops it in the frying pan, and eats it for her breakfast. What would have happened had c not occurred? The right answer (Answer 1) is that the egg would not then have been fried and Gretta would not have eaten it – and not (Answer 2) that she would still have fried and eaten the egg, but these events would somehow have come about despite her failing to crack it in the first place. The question is: how does Lewis’s analysis of the similarity relation deliver Answer 1 and not Answer 2? In particular, consider worlds where there is perfect match of particular fact until just before 8.00, and then a miracle, and then no perfect match of particular fact thereafter. Call the closest such world World 1. Now consider worlds where there is no perfect match of particular fact before 8.00 (and in particular, Gretta does not crack the egg), a miracle just after 8.00, and then perfect match of particular fact thereafter. Call the closest such world World 2. (Intuitively, in the first case we keep the past fixed, insert a miracle just before 8.00 so that c doesn’t occur, and the future unfolds thereafter according to the (actual) laws. In the second case, we keep the future fixed, insert a miracle just after 8.00 so that c doesn’t occur, and the past unfolds according to the (actual) laws.) Why is World 1 closer to actuality than is World 2?

Lewis’s answer to that question comes from the fact that c leaves very many traces: at 8.02, for example, there is the egg cooking in the pan, the cracked empty shell in the bin, traces of raw egg on Gretta’s fingers, her memory of having just now cracked it, and so on. So in World 2, Gretta fails to crack the egg but then, shortly thereafter, seems to remember cracking it, there is the egg in the pan, the empty shell in the bin, and so on. So World 2 – since it contains all of these events without the egg being cracked in the first place – needs to contain not just one miracle but several: one to take care of each of these effects. World 1, by contrast, requires just the one small miracle to stop Gretta cracking the egg. Hence World 2 contains a ‘big, diverse’ miracle while World 1 contains just one small miracle; hence World 1 is closer to actuality than is World 2; hence Lewis’s analysis yields the correct result that had Gretta not cracked the egg, she would not have eaten it.

The result in Gretta’s case generalises to the extent that causes are overdetermined by their effects but effects are not overdetermined by their causes. Overdetermination of effects by causes does of course happen – as when the victim is simultaneously shot by several assassins – but it is relatively rare, and even when it happens the effect is overdetermined only by a handful of events. By contrast, the leaving of traces is ubiquitous – and (or so Lewis needs to think) the extent of overdetermination, in any given case, is much greater than in cases of cause-to-effect overdetermination. Both of these, however, are contingent features of the actual world (or so Lewis claims; but see §2.1 below).

In general, then, the symmetric analysis of similarity and the de facto asymmetry of overdetermination together imply that worlds that accommodate counterfactual changes by preserving the actual past and allowing for divergence miracles are more similar to the actual world than worlds that accommodate such changes by allowing for convergence miracles that preserve the actual future. This fact in turn implies that, where the asymmetry of overdetermination obtains, the present counterfactually depends on the past, but not on the future.

1.3 Transitivity and Preemption

As Lewis notes (1973b), causal dependence between actual events is sufficient for causation, but not necessary: it is possible to have causation without causal dependence. A standard case of ‘pre-emption’ will illustrate this. Suppose that two shooters conspire to assassinate a hated dictator, agreeing that one or other will shoot the dictator on a public occasion. Acting side by side, assassins A and B find a good vantage point, and, when the dictator appears, both take aim (events a and b respectively). A pulls her trigger and fires a shot that hits its mark, but B desists from firing when he sees A pull her trigger. Here assassin A’s actions (such as her taking aim) are causes of the dictator’s death, while B’s actions (such as his taking aim) are merely preempted potential causes. (Lewis distinguishes such cases of preemption from cases of symmetrical overdetermination in which two processes terminate in the effect, with neither process preempting the other. Lewis believes that these cases are not suitable test cases for a theory of causation since they do not elicit clear judgements.) The problem raised by this example of preemption is that both actions are on a par from the point of view of causal dependence: had neither A nor B acted, then the dictator would not have died; and if either had acted without the other, the dictator would have died (but see Northcott 2018 for the claim that pre-emption does not, in fact, undermine identifying causation with counterfactual dependence).

To overcome this problem Lewis extends causal dependence to a transitive relation by taking its ancestral. He defines a causal chain as a finite sequence of actual events c, d, e, … where d causally depends on c, e on d, and so on throughout the sequence. Then causation is finally defined in these terms:

(4)c is a cause of e if and only if there exists a causal chain leading from c to e.

Given the definition of causation in terms of causal chains, Lewis is able to distinguish preempting actual causes (such as a) from preempted potential causes (such as b). There is a causal chain running from a to the dictator’s death, but no such chain running from b to the dictator’s death. Take, for example, as an intermediary event occurring between a and the dictator’s death, the bullet from A’s gun speeding through the air in mid-trajectory. The speeding bullet causally depends on a, since that particular bullet would not have been in mid-trajectory had A not taken aim; and the dictator’s death causally depends on the speeding bullet, since by the time the bullet is in mid-trajectory B has refrained from firing so that the dictator would not have died without the presence of the speeding bullet. (Recall that we are not allowed to ‘backtrack’: it is not true that if the bullet had not been mid-trajectory A would not have taken aim, and hence it is not true that had the bullet not been mid-trajectory B would have fired after all.) Hence, we have a causal chain, and so causation. But no corresponding intermediary can be found between b and the dictator’s death; hence b does not count as causes of the death.

Lewis’s definition of causation also delivers the result that causation is a transitive relation: whenever c causes d and d causes e, it will also be true that c causes e. The transitivity of causation fits with at least some of our explanatory practices. For example, historians wishing to explain some significant historical event will trace the explanation back through a number of causal links, concluding that the event at the beginning of the causal chain is responsible for the event being explained. As we shall see later, however, some authors have claimed that causation is not in fact transitive.

1.4 Chancy Causation

So far we have considered how the counterfactual theory of causation works under the assumption of determinism. But what about causation when determinism fails? Lewis (1986c) argues that chancy causation is a conceptual possibility that must be accommodated by a theory of causation. Indeed, contemporary physics tells us the actual world abounds with probabilistic processes that are causal in character. To take a familiar example (Lewis 1986c): suppose that you mischievously hook up a bomb to a radioactive source and Geiger counter in such a way that the bomb explodes if the counter registers a certain number of clicks within ten minutes. If it happens that the counter registers the required number of clicks and the bomb explodes, your act caused the explosion, even though there is no deterministic connection between them: consistent with the actual past and the laws, the Geiger counter might not have registered sufficiently many clicks.

In principle a counterfactual analysis of causation is well placed to deal with chancy causation, since counterfactual dependence does not require that the cause was sufficient, in the circumstances, for the effect – it only requires that the cause was necessary in the circumstances for the effect. The problem posed by abandoning the assumption of determinism, however, is that pervasive indeterminism undermines the plausibility of the idea that – preemption and overdetermination aside – effects generally counterfactually depend on their causes. In the Geiger counter case above, for example, suppose that the chance of the bomb exploding can be altered by means of a dial. (A low setting means the Geiger counter needs to register a lot of clicks in order for the bomb to go off in the next ten minutes, thus making the explosion very unlikely; a high setting means it needs to register very few clicks, thus making the explosion very likely.) The dial is on a low setting; I increase the chance of the bomb exploding by turning it up. My act was a cause of the explosion, but it’s not true that, had I not done it, the bomb would not have exploded; it would merely have been very unlikely to do so.

In order to accommodate chancy causation, Lewis (1986c) defines a more general notion of causal dependence in terms of chancy counterfactuals. These counterfactuals are of the form “If A were the case Pr (C) would be x”, where the counterfactual is an ordinary would-counterfactual, interpreted according to the semantics above, and the Pr operator is a probability operator with narrow scope confined to the consequent of the counterfactual. Lewis interprets the probabilities involved as temporally indexed single-case chances. (See his (1980) for the theory of single-case chance.)

The more general notion of causal dependence reads:

(5)Where c and e are distinct actual events, e causally depends on c if and only if, if c had not occurred, the chance of e’s occurring would be much less than its actual chance.

This definition covers cases of deterministic causation in which the chance of the effect with the cause is 1 and the chance of the effect without the cause is 0. But it also allows for cases of irreducible probabilistic causation where these chances can take non-extreme values, as in the Geiger-counter-with-dial example above. It is similar to the central notion of probabilistic relevance used in probabilistic theories of type-causation, except that it employs chancy counterfactuals rather than conditional probabilities. (See the discussion in Lewis 1986c for the advantages of the counterfactual approach over the probabilistic one. Also see the entry probabilistic causation.)

The rest of the theory of chancy causation follows the outlines of the theory of deterministic causation: again, we have causation when we have one or more steps of causal dependence.




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2025-3-18 15:41:56
jesusman 发表于 2025-3-17 19:08
你到底认为我说的是不是原因?

你认为不是原因,倒是拿出不是原因的理由来嘛,扯可以是原因的前提没毛 ...
你到底认为我说的是不是原因?
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当然不是原因啊,我早告诉你了,你M怀你不是你瘸腿的原因。

你认为不是原因,倒是拿出不是原因的理由来嘛,扯可以是原因的前提没毛用...
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扯前提是你先扯的呀!“无A即无B”,这尼玛就是前提嘛,就是一个必要条件关系嘛。
你要不扯“无A即无B”,我就不会给你扫盲前提和原因的区分啊!
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2025-3-18 15:47:36
jesusman 发表于 2025-3-17 19:35
弄了堆网上文盲话来回复制粘贴,彰显你的更文盲?复制黏贴谁不会啊
Counterfactual Theories of ...
你会粘贴不假,但你贴的东西根本没说发生在先的必要条件是原因啊,哈哈哈
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2025-3-18 16:02:48
jesusman 发表于 2025-3-17 19:11
我证明“唯一直接原因”为假,说明有两种可能:1.有唯一直接原因但不是既遂交换行为 2.直接原因不仅有一个 ...
基督男一上来就信誓旦旦地说“唯一的直接原因是既遂交换本身”,原来是尼玛放P呀,哈哈哈

基督男一上来就放P,大家可以散了,太味儿了!
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2025-3-18 16:58:53
clm0600 发表于 2025-3-18 15:41
你到底认为我说的是不是原因?
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当然不是原因啊,我早告诉你了,你M怀你不是你瘸腿的原因。
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你说不是就不是啊,你倒是证明不是嘛。
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2025-3-18 17:01:06
clm0600 发表于 2025-3-18 16:02
基督男一上来就信誓旦旦地说“唯一的直接原因是既遂交换本身”,原来是尼玛放P呀,哈哈哈

基督男一上来 ...
用既遂的交换行为或“物的交换力(购买力)”当价格产生原因的,等同于在说“价格产生的原因是价格产生”。

上面这句又发挥你眼瞎特征看不见了是吧?
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2025-3-18 17:18:03
clm0600 发表于 2025-3-18 15:47
你会粘贴不假,但你贴的东西根本没说发生在先的必要条件是原因啊,哈哈哈
Counterfactual Theories of Causation
First published Wed Jan 10, 2001; substantive revision Mon Apr 1, 2024

The basic idea of counterfactual theories of causation is that the meaning of causal claims can be explained in terms of counterfactual conditionals of the form “If event c had not occurred, event e would not have occurred”. Such analyses became popular after the publication of David Lewis’s (1973b) theory and alongside the development in the 1970s of possible world semantics for counterfactuals. Intense discussion over forty years has cast doubt on the adequacy of any simple analysis of singular causation in terms of counterfactuals. Recent years have seen a proliferation of different refinements of the basic idea; the ‘structural equations’ or ‘causal modelling’ framework is currently the most popular way of cashing out the relationship between causation and counterfactuals. From the 1970s until the causal modelling framework was developed at the start of the 21st century, counterfactual analyses focused exclusively on claims of the form “event c caused event e”, describing ‘singular’ or ‘token’ or ‘actual’ causation, while ‘general’ or ‘type-level’ or ‘population-level’ causal claims of the form “C causes E” (e.g. “smoking causes cancer”) were generally analysed in terms of conditional probabilities. However, the structural equations (or causal modelling) framework now dominates discussions of both type and token causation, and a broadly counterfactual approach to causation is often taken in – for example – epidemiology and econometrics (see e.g. Flanders 2006; West and Thoemmes 2010; DeMartino 2021). This article focuses on token causation; see the entry on probabilistic causation for discussion of type causation (and some additional discussion of token causation).

1. Lewis’s 1973 Counterfactual Analysis
1.1 Counterfactuals and Causal Dependence
1.2 The Temporal Asymmetry of Causal Dependence
1.3 Transitivity and Preemption
1.4 Chancy Causation
2. Problems for Lewis’s Counterfactual Theory
2.1 Temporal Asymmetry
2.2 Transitivity
2.3 Preemption
3. Lewis’s 2000 Theory
4. Contextualism vs. Invariantism
5. The Structural Equations Framework
5.1 SEF: The Basic Picture
5.2 SEF and Counterfactuals
5.3 Models and Reality
5.4 SEF and Chancy Causation
5.5 Defaults and Deviants
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2025-3-18 17:20:55
clm0600 发表于 2025-3-18 15:41
你到底认为我说的是不是原因?
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当然不是原因啊,我早告诉你了,你M怀你不是你瘸腿的原因。
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包括你复制的那些文盲话中,哪知眼让你看到“无A既无B就是前提”的?草履虫已经疯了....
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2025-3-19 09:58:01
jesusman 发表于 2025-3-18 16:58
你说不是就不是啊,你倒是证明不是嘛。
你说是就是啊,你也没证明是啊。
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